Johns And The World's Oldest Profession

I believe that there is a genetic disposition for men to be pushy and to lack empathy / sympathy and it's a woman's nature to submit / give in and yet to have an unending ability to show empathy / sympathy.

Now, if ever there was an over-simplification of things, this is one of those times, for I've met men who are cowards, unable to lead, unable to take a stand if their lives depended on it and there's women who, in a time of war, I'd either follow into battle or would love to have backing me up in time of battle, who could be as ruthless as any warrior who ever lived.

I've seen both in real life and in this forum ( orato ) that tho women express some strong opinions and tho they can be so typically vitreolic with their words, they haven't got what it takes to stay in for the long haul, while at the same time, I've seen men here who haven't got the good sense to know when to back down.

Now, you can fault the man who doesn't have the good sense to know when to shut up ... but ONLY if you also fault the women, who given a chance to lead and to control the situation and to dominate it, back down and back out of the conversation. They "snipe" but they don't have it in them to see the battle thru to the end.

There are differences between men and women that are genetic, more than they are culturally learned. They permiate our culture and yet as pervasive as these differences are, they are, too often, either denied or ignored.

Just as some people have different attributes ( like finger dexterity, eye/hand coordination, sense of musical pitch, trouble-shooting skills, etc ) so also the genders have different attributes which are not learned but are an intrinsic part of each gender's personhood.

Having said that, the piece of the "human nature" puzzle which has yet to be properly addressed is "responsibility".

For example, men have a responsibility to control how they execute their inner nature to dominate and to control. It is a sad truth that so many wars have been perpetrated on the fuel of a man's ego. Similarly, it's a sad truth that so many wife-beatings have been similarly fueled by a man's selfish ego.

One of the predominant themes of many of today's cultures is one of "rights". On the opposite side of the coin to "rights" is "responsibilities" and another sad fact of many of our cultures today is to flip that coin over and to learn of and to exercise responsibility.

For there to be responsibilities, there must also be an underlying motivation. Without proper motivation to be responsible, few humans pursue responsibility as they should.

With out a knowledge of morals and The Author of morality, people do that which is right in their own eyes. Their motivation is often selfish and/or self-centered. They lack a sense of responsibility and lack any awareness that they are accountible and, in many cases, would deny any sense of either.

Some of the most unhappy and insatiable people thru-out history have been those who are either unaware of ( or who deny the existance of ) their responsibility to fellow man and to their Creator, similarly believing that they are in no way accountible to either.

Seeing ( hearing / reading ? ) the number of women who are so obviously spiteful / resentful of men as the above respondant is not only evidence of irresponsible male influence in that respondant's life but also of that respondant's defeminization. It's evidence that she's feeling hurt to the point where she lacks either sympathy and/or empathy for men. It's sad to see she's become ( and/or is becoming ) more like the men she despises, hardened and ruthless, ready to crush and to dominate the object(s) of her loathing.

Shyamal, My apologies for having assumed ... and for having assumed too much. I classify myself as a gay heterosexual ( gay used in the traditional and not current sense of the word ) and was born in Nova Scotia many moons ago.

One can not find the solution to the "sex trade" exclusively nor predominantly in the male ... nor in the female ... portion of this equation but rather by discovering The One who has the cure for their common human nature.

Lustful men will exist, whether or not there are women trading that which is priceless for a paltry price. ( There is no price for which a woman should trade not only her intimacy but her soul ).

Women willing to exchange themselves for a price will always exist, as will there always exist selfish men and women who are anxious to market them for selfish profit by "selling" flesh in this manner.

When we lay exclusive ( or even almost ) blame on one or the other, it's like removing only part of a malignant cancer.

Shyamal states "Why has prostitution been allowed to continue? The answer is simple: men. Period."

I'm sitting here, with bated breath, wondering where the woman is who mocked me for having expressed my opinion. I'm waiting for that knowledgeable woman to devalue Shyamal's comments as opion.

As long as we say MEN are the reason prostitution is allowed to continue, we discount the well known fact that there are many women pimps and business owners as well. I'd be pleased to hear from those Asia who've seen this to be true where they live.

Prostitution is allowed to continue due to the corruption of people's hearts and minds. Sad but true is the fact that there are judges, police and politicians who are up to their wallets and beyond, with their involvement in prostitution ... and not all of them are male.

There's an old saying which says goes like this "The love of money is the root of all kinds of evil." It is the greed in people's hearts which leads to all sorts of ungodly choices and actions, not the least of which is people's lust for power & money and the physical spiffs which come along with both.

To state that "men" are the reason that prostitution is allowed to continue is to miss the mark and to deny the fact that it is the ungodly selfishness of the hearts of mankind, with its two genders, which is the undercurrent of prostitution and all it involves.

Until you address the true cause of abhorant behavior and until you get busy with the only Solution, it's a given fact that there will be pimps, johns and prostitutes, there will be crooked cops, judges, lawyers, preachers and politicians ... and you and I will continue to satiate our insatiable inner void with physical things which can never satisfy.

We are creatures of a Devine Creator. Until we figure out what that Devine Creator expects of us and until we surrender all of our lives to that Devine Creator and find out how to live within the bounds that Creator has set forth, we are destined to live selfish lives and never be satisfied.

Leslie Benisz

So if we get rid of the harlots then harlotry will disappear?
Is it really that simple?
What will the 'johns' do when every prostitute is imprisoned and/or reformed and forced to work in regular jobs?
Will they suddenly change their behavior and become righteous men who are loyal to their wives and girlfriends?
Even in countries like Saudi Arabia there are many rich men who own their own harems filled with women, many of which are from foreign countries.
As to whether or not these women are treated well and given the luxuries that an oil sheik with strong ties to the royal houses can afford is a mystery.
Women from Asia, Africa, and the eastern European countries often answer job advertisements to work as models or even legitimate jobs such as waitresses in foreign countries.
The advertised monthly salaries and benefits are much more than they can earn in a year and many of these young women end up as slaves in a billion dollar industry known today as 'human trafficking'.
In addition, many of the prositutes in western countries started out as young teenagers or sometimes even children.
These women who were once little girls took to the streets after being sexually and physically abused by some of their male family members.
With no money, few friends, and being too young to understand what services are available to them or even what rights they have the streets are often the only place for them to go.
What is an 11 year old little girl who is too traumatized to go back home going to do?
If she's lucky, a she might be picked up by the police who will place her in a safe enviroment such as a foster home or shelter for street kids.
However, much like the wolves in the forest the streets are filled with predators who look for fresh young meat.
By the time these young girls are about 14 they are hooked on drugs and they have to turn tricks to survive another day and avoid getting another beating from the pimps who work these girls to the bone.

Very few women who are intelligent enough want a life like this.
The myth that women are here by choice and are just as guilty as the ones who exploit them is part of the problem.
Perhaps some prostitutes may have chosen to stay in their field after working for so many years due to their lack of confidence in being able to ever change their lives and possibly because they've just given up.
The smart young women that they dreamed of becoming were murdered long before and what's left is an empty shell that is for sale to any man with enough cash.

So I don't blame all men for the problems of prostitution and there are most definately many women who are also to blame for prostitution and it's effect on society.
However, every hooker and high class call girl who makes her living by renting out her body didn't start out that way.
Prostitutes all still human beings under all that sexy make up and the sexy clothes they wear and if they want a way out there should be more avenues for them to do so.