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Oscar-Nominated Jesus Camp's Leading Lady Speaks

Pastor Becky Fischer , U.S.A.
Date Posted: 02/20/07
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The documentary Jesus Camp, which features Kids In Ministry International and its founder Becky Fischer, was nominated for an Oscar in the Best Documentary Film category. The provocative nature of the film's contents have prompted outrage from non-evangelical Christians and secular people, who suggest Fischer uses brainwashing and child abuse to achieve her goals. However, Fischer says extreme times call for extreme measures. She says kids are facing the crisis of a sin-sick world, and the survival of society depends on kids, especially because they have supernatural powers and can hear the voice of God.

There is a crisis hitting young people today. We have a culture that on the one hand is throwing every conceivable temptation their way before they're old enough to understand the significance their decisions will have on the rest of their lives.

On the other hand, the same culture is downplaying the importance of God and religion. So, they are lacking the inner moral compass and guidance for making informed decisions about relationships, morals, ethics, social issues, international issues, et cetera.

The supernatural manifests in children very simply, without a lot of hoopla and flare. Children are naturally supernatural. They naturally hear the voice of God, see visions, and have faith for healing the sick and so on. It's because of their infamous childlike faith. But somebody usually has to educate them to know this is happening to them.

If you were to ask me what's the strongest sign or miracle I have witnessed, you might expect me to say some type of supernatural healing like a crippled person walking or blind eyes being opened. But truly the greatest miracle anyone can witness is the person whose life is forever changed when he or she asks Jesus Christ to come into their hearts, to be their Lord and Savior.

It's a transformation of character in the same order as a caterpillar turning into a butterfly. Nothing can compare to seeing the person who was hopeless, bound by drugs or alcohol, being set free in a moment in time. Their whole personality changes from darkness to light and they are never the same again. It is truly a supernatural experience.

My approach would not have been nearly as controversial in the film Jesus Camp if the audience had the privilege of seeing more of what I actually do with the children.


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I'd like to start by saying

By luyen, February 23, 2007 at 15:42

I'd like to start by saying that i have a great respect for the religions of the world, it's important to recognize this because people of all faiths, and in this case "Christians" do an enormous amount of charity and humanitarian work in the world, relieving suffering, misery, oppression and so forth.

As individuals whether we are religious or not, we experience problems and suffering, we have delusions such as attachment, anger, ignorance, therefore our actions often bring about the very things we don't like.

It is important to have some belief or faith that an improvement in our human condition exists, one that is beyond the day-to-day activities of food, clothing and instant gratification. If no faith exists, then we will not have the courage to explore the causes which can bring about our future happiness.

We can all agree that a blind faith can be dangerous. Why is it dangerous? Because it is without a strong foundation. Blind faith is easily disturbed, supported primarily by desire and emotion - which is not necessarily bad, but it is not unshakable, because questions like "Why?" can easily disturb or spot fallacies in reasoning.

So that's not an argument against faith, or belief - rather it is saying, as human beings with a faculty of great intelligence, we should support our faith and belief with reasoning. Not necessarily - science and instruments, because they have their limitations too - but internal logical reasoning.

We have to look to the best of our ability, what kind of effect our actions have, what is our motivation doing this?

We have to check, and double-check - if our strong faith comes from a sense of ego, selfishness - then we have to re-tool it. But only we can check, only we can know if our actions do good or harm.

Therefore, that is the main fallacy of blind faith, is that it comes from the outside. It is a force that is usually impressed upon us by an external agent, such as a friend or whomever. Then comes belief, but that belief is only supported by external factors, like a certain environment or entourage.

If this particular person is placed in another environment, their faith will quickly change, due to a lack of internal basis.

So overall, i'm not one to judge, Jesus camp might have the best of intentions - but children are too young or not trained to apply some basis of reasoning, they are easily impressionable and therefore emulate those around them.

At a later date, these same 'devout' children grow up in people who lose all faith in religion, faith in others and spiritual people.

That is a great danger and it happens in all religions, all faiths. So just by looking at events within our own society we can observe by analogy that faith inspired solely by circumstance, environment, personality or emotion can often have the totally opposite effect at a later date.

Spiritual teachers should be skillful, having subdued their own internal negative emotions. Instead of declaring something is bad, explain why in relevant terms, it can be harmful.

We should take into account that every child, teenager, adult has different dispositions towards spiritually, at different ages.

Doing the opposite is highly irresponsible, and might indicate a greater regard for our own desires, rather than what's good for others.

Thanks for weighing in Lu -

By Heather Wallace, February 24, 2007 at 17:26

Thanks for weighing in Lu - you always have a way of bringing things into perspective.

Personally, I was very disturbed by what I saw in Jesus Camp, for the simple fact that these kids were being scared into being faithful. It's hard to know what one truly believes if one is only believing out of fear of retribution, or burning in hell.

I do think Pastor Becky has good intentions, and I am truly grateful she sat down to try to help us understand those intentions. I just think she is sending some confusing and dangerous messages to kids, who may internalize some self-loathing down the road. As soon as they have the inevitable "sinful" thoughts and feelings, they will start to think they're "bad."

It would be more useful to talk to the kids themselves to find out how they really feel.

I went to Sunday School when I was a child...I remember someone asking me to read parts of the Bible, before I even knew how to read. It was a lot of pressure, to say the least. When I said I couldn't read, the man said, "Just try." It did not happen.

Anyway, I grew up secular, but now have a sense there is something larger than us going on. I just don't think it has anything to do with some iconic figure I am supposed to venerate. It has to do with the sun, the moon, the stars, the earth - nature.

Buddhism has some incredibly useful insights as well, but ultimately, these religions are physical creations borne out of a need to understand our spirituality.

Spirituality is important. Mind control is undesireable.

Heather Wallace
Senior Editor

Hi heather, thanks for the

By luyen, February 26, 2007 at 11:16

Hi heather, thanks for the kind words.

I grew up in a mish-mash environment, i went to catholic school for a while, my parents are buddhist, and later on in life i was baptized, and now I study Buddhism.

Oddly enough after a circuitous journey i feel like i have an appreciation for all faiths i've encountered, as well as the person who has no faith. I consider myself more of a secular person than anything - i think all the great spiritual people in history have never called themselves anything, but just did good things for others.

HH the Dalai Lama says i'm just a simple monk, Mother Theresa never proselytized, Albert Einstein had very deep insights into the nature of reality while being a "scientist", and course Jesus Christ never said i'm christian!

There's the big trap in my opinion, form, ideas, concepts without internalizing them, without developing some direct experience. Things will always then remain, me and them, your idea vs my idea, my group vs your group.

But i agree with you that there is something larger than us, and that non-conceptual reality is beyond form, and conceptual thought and words. However, because we're all still stuck in form, everything still appears as something "good" or "bad" even though in reality, things don't actually exist in that way.

Just like the secular person rejects the notion of a particular religion being the one truth, the religious person rejects the notion of there being a truth other than their own! But who is right? I think, neither is, there is no conclusion, just two different points of views who grasp at reality to the best of their ability.

Of course it's really unfortunate that some individuals, and that's what religion is really, a group of people who force their ideas on others. I think that's really wrong, because as you said, in the long run it creates a lot of conflict.

Anyhow, of all people, i just have opinions myself and my own perspective, my own projections - and we can notice how getting into discussions can land us into hot water too!

So I think it's so important for people to think for themselves, to have that freedom to choose whatever they want. Like you mentioned that's what's scary about this, is if you scare someone you take away that ability to reason - i guess in the end, that's all we ask is that we're all given that chance.