I'm The Winner Of Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Petrozza: Another Door, Another Day
Corey Beats The Rest, But Not The Best
General Bobby Leaves The War Zone
Matt Loses 1/2 Inch Of Thumb And A Shot With Chef
Chef Pulls Rug Out From Under Rosann's Feet
Ben's Nemesis Talks Smack, Ben Takes The Hack
Slow Cooking Shayna Says Goodbye
Raw Chicken And Burger Pucks Burn Craig's Pasta
Jason Underwood Gets On Chef's Bad Side




Comments
Re: The Hell's Kitchen Chopping Block
By MS, May 10, 2008 at 02:24WriterTacoma67,
I think you may have contradicted yourself a bit in your comments! Since Aaron and Dewberry are/were contracted with FOX to not reveal pertinent information about the show, why would they be proclaiming such supposed behind-the-scenes information to you--on the INTERNET no less??
Is the show semi-reality? Of course, but anyone with a keen eye and a shred of common sense can tell that the contestants and the staff are not simply actors regurgitating a script. Exposure to the real world with all walks of life and being filmed 24/7 (even when many of the contestants forget from time-to-time!) are good reminders that what we view on the show can--and indeed does--happen in life.
To be blunt: I don't know if you are a "troll" attempting to cause controversy, but you may want to take what "Aaron" and "Dewberry" (if you in fact really did communicate with them in the first place) have revealed to you with a major grain of salt..... :-)
Re: The Hell's Kitchen Chopping Block
By WriterTacoma67, May 15, 2008 at 06:18Mr./Ms. MS,
To answer your rather smug and condescending posts: Yes, I e-mailed back-and-forth with Jeffery Dewberry a couple of times and spoke to him on the phone twice back in 2005 (my partner actually having met him in person whilst on a trip to the Atlanta area to meet family) and chatted in IM with Aaron a mere 3 weeks ago. They were, in fact, careful in what each had told me as they were under contract (Aaron still is, obviously); therefore, I extrapolated from what they had told me and my partner. (You see, I DO have a shred of common sense, at the very least.) The part about the actor 'customers' on the show was actually told by Dewberry to my partner, not directly to me, but still, he said it. What I quoted Aaron as saying was a direct paraphrase of what he had told me in chat. He did NOT reveal "pertinent (I believe the word you were searching for was "sensitive") information" as he was very careful what he told me due to his being under contract. What he also told me was that he is currently the Executive Chef at a big resort restaurant in L.A. specializing in Chinese-Fusion cuisine, a fact that two other gay guys I know that knew him from their days in that area confirmed for me just the other day. Aaron also informed me that he has been cooking professionally for nearly 20 years, that he grew up cooking and his first job as such was at his own family's restaurant. He also graduated from Columbia University with a degree in Economics. Now, you saw last season of Hell's Kitchen and have a shred of common sense, I presume; therefore, wouldn't this information surprise you? It sure did me! Therefore, I did what any other logically curious individual would do; I inquired about his 'breakdown' on the show and he answered me what I printed above. He also stated that he is a good cook, so you tell me, Mr./Ms. MS, whom are you going to believe: What this extremely-edited SHOW showed to you last year or what the CONTESTANT HIMSELF is saying? Hmmm?
Anywhosky, I never said the ENTIRE SHOW was scripted; rather, I stated that the "drama" IN the show is scripted. (Y'see, it sure helps to pay attention to what you're reading!) I suppose I should have qualified it to say "largely scripted" because I do not know if ALL of the drama presented on the show is scripted; however, I DO know (from the horse's mouth, so to speak) that much of it is: Aaron's 'breakdown' and the arguments with the actor/customers, for example. I did not contradict myself in any way in my post and am certainly NOT a ""troll" attempting to cause controversy" (see, I have one of these screenname thingys just like you have, otherwise known as an ACCOUNT here); rather, I was inspired to post based on my surprise at Ms. Wallace being able to interview the most recent exited contestants from this year's show and for them to speak with such candor so soon after their respective exits from the show. This surprise was based on my recent chat with Aaron and his informing me that he is still under contract to FOX and to the show for a significant period of time since his famous exit from the show. So there you go. :-)
Oh, and by the way, if you still don't believe me, check another fact, why don'tcha: For his performance in the show (and it was that, a performance) Aaron received an Emmy nomination for Best Actor In A Reality Show. So there ya go...again. :-)
Still think I'm a troll trying to stir up controversy? Sheeet, there is so much crap that I could make up about the show that would be far wilder than what I've written here...BUT, it would be a HELL of a lot WILDER than that, and far less believable. Is what I've stated thus far NOT believable? Um, no. Even Heather saw fit to not question its veracity. But if you want to remain a Doubting Thomas, go right ahead. I personally don't care what you do. Maybe YOU are a troll attempting to stir things up here by questioning the sincerity of my post. I find it interesting that you re-appropriated my own "grain of salt" phrasing not once, but twice (once in each of your two smarmy posts). I also find it interesting that you decided to frame both the names "Dewberry" and "Aaron" as such with quotation marks. Perhaps you doubt the veracity of their own names? ("Dewberry," as obvious from my posts, is his last name, "Jeffery" being his first.)
So, believe me now? I don't know, and nor do I care. Now you go and have yourself a nice day. :-)
Re: The Hell's Kitchen Chopping Block
By luyen, May 1, 2008 at 08:48I think the general situations might be scripted to avoid law-suits and such (as always)...but in no way are these folks professional actors, and if they had lines to learn, it'd come off as a REALLY bad show!!!
But who knows...it's TV...i've worked in TV, and there's nothing "real" about it, it's fictitious in all its production processes, which in the opinion of some leads to better TV, who knows!
I think Gordon Ramsey is the real deal, in all his shows where he goes and helps people, his demeanor depends on the person he's trying to help, stubborn people get treated quite differently than open-minded, hard-working folks!
So as long as Gordon Ramsay is the real deal ;-)
I'm surprised the dismissed contestants can talk at this point
By WriterTacoma67, April 30, 2008 at 21:19I've recently chatted with Aaron (from Season 3) on another website and he stated that each of the contestants sign a contract with FOX when they make it through the 6-week audition process, just like they would if they were actors on a FOX sitcom. He stated that he is STILL under contract with FOX, which expires this year, although he is hoping he gets it renewed for longer. I don't know if his contract is any longer than that of the other contestants, but if not, then how can these recently eliminated contestants speak candidly about the show like they're doing?
Anyway, Aaron indicated that the show, drama and all, is indeed scripted, with the producers consulting with the contestants before each show and letting each of them know the "roles" they are playing on the show. I had asked Aaron about the "breakdown" he had on the show last season and he simply told me "I'm under contract to FOX. I receive instruction from the producers of Hell's Kitchen (whom he stated were very good to him); I do what I am supposed to do. I perform a service on the show, and I get paid for it." This matches up with similar comments by Jeffery Dewberry, with whom I also communicated with for a time in 2005. He had stated that the drama is scripted, and the complaining "patrons" of the dual-kitchen "restaurant" (which in itself nothing more than a modified studio crafted out of an empty warehouse) are simply actors. The guy in the 1st season who had ordered pizza when he had gotten impatient with the slow service and then argued with Jean-Phillippe, poked him in the chest and got kicked out? An actor. All staged.
For me, having spoken with Dewberry and Aaron, this all really calls into question the whole "reality" basis for the show. Because I have watched almost every single episode from the very beginning, I will continue watching for the time being, but I am taking EVERYTHING that happens on it with a grain of salt! I was wondering what, if anything, you have to say about this, Heather. I look forward to your response. Thanks.
Re: I'm surprised the dismissed contestants can talk at this poi
By Heather Wallace, May 1, 2008 at 05:52Well, that's interesting, but every person I've talked to seems not to be playing any role. They sound like real people through and through. Sometimes they indicated that because of editing, you don't get to see ALL of what went down, but that it is real.
Our interviews are arranged through Fox and I know there are certain behind-the-scenes things the contestants aren't able to talk about, (and their interviews are moderated until three months after the show) but they do seem very keen to talk about what's real.
Of course it IS a TV show. I interviewed Vanessa after her elimination and asked her why she thought Chef didn't eliminate anyone else after she quit voluntarily. She said she thought that it would have screwed up the episode line up. So, some things are decided for Reality TV.
Like I did wonder if Jason was as sexist as the show's editing made it seem. Of course he said he wasn't sexist, but acknowledged it looked that way. Why would you want the world to think that about you though, so maybe he was a bit of a pig in a vat of salt.
These folks are trying out for a job. When I was hired, I was also asked to keep certain business confidential, just like any job with a public image.
I think Gordon Ramsay definitely makes things over the top, but you can't fake being the Iron Chef...
Thanks for your insights,
Heather Wallace
senior editor
Orato.com
Re: I'm surprised the dismissed contestants can talk at this poi
By MS, May 10, 2008 at 10:08Ms. Wallace,
Thanks for your professionalism and for your insights overall. As I have already stated, I think we need to keep what WriterTacoma67 states as fact with a grain of salt. :-)
Thanks again,
MS
Re: I'm surprised the dismissed contestants can talk at this poi
By WriterTacoma67, May 15, 2008 at 06:28Oh, and Mr./Ms. MS, you might want to read Ms. Wallace's most recent interview, that of the recently departed Ben. In it, he says the following, "I’ve been asked the question many times: “Why did he perform better when cooking with the women’s team.” It’s all in the editing, my dear. I had one bad night and I leave, while Matt screws up five or six weeks in a row, and he stays. He’s still there for 99 per cent dramatic reasons. I was fairly strong and did a lot of good stuff there. He just makes for good TV."
I rest my case about this "Reality TV" not always being "reality."
Cheers! :-)