Times Square's Naked Cowgirl

Posted 8/04/2007 at 2:56pm Allan Smith

It's amazing that in a world where there are so many women who take such a strong stand against the objectification of women that some here in Orato spend so much time highlighting women who willingly objectify themselves.

It's sad to see how many women are so comfortable selling one of the most precious and priceless attributes of themselves in exchange for a little attention ( and other material gains ) which will dry up as these beauties age.

It's surprising ( and yet not ) how this woman, about whom the article is "written", celebrates her licentiousness and then calls it "freedom" ... and the frequency with which Orato highlights stories which not only lack virtue but fly in the face of it.

Someday, I'll be surprised to see that Heather Wallace ( or some other staff member ) highlights a story of someone who's done the right thing, in the face of opposition, and stood for honor, dignity, justice, virtue ... you know ... some of the finer attributes in our society.

Posted 10/04/2007 at 12:17pm Allan Smith

I'm glad you asked. Must be you missed how I alluded to that article, tho indirectly, in my comments above.

Considering that what the naked cowboy is doing is not more ethical / right / moral than the cowgirl, same applies to the coverage of that person. Both of these people don't know shame but should.

I've been looking at the stats that Orato keeps on the attention that Orato gets, number of readers, number of people who post comments and it seems like Orato is struggling to get credibility, let alone comments back from readers.

I can see why.

Posted 10/04/2007 at 5:03pm Paul Sullivan

Did somebody mention stats? I'm a world expert when it comes to Orato stats. Time to let a few out of the bag. The number of visitors to Orato has tripled in the first three months of 2007, from approx 20,000 to 60,000. The site is logging 2400 visits a day and that's increasing at a rate that makes 100,000 in April a distinct possibility. Orato is not YouTube; we ask a lot of our correspondents -- by the way, we have 2150 registered correspondents from around the world. Orato thrives on the honesty, commitment and courage of its correspondents, and it is our job to provide you with an environment that respects your stories. Orato's mission is to be a big tent: there's room for anyone who values civil discourse...

Paul Sullivan,
Editor-In-Chief

Posted 10/04/2007 at 6:56pm Allan Smith

Wow, Heather and Paul contributed something substantive. Something I said sparked must have hit a sensitive spot with them, they came to life and said something substantive.

Now if only I could get them to go back, read some of my questions and take some of my challenges, perhaps we could actually see them participate in ... um ... what were Paul's words ? "civil discourse" ?

I remember when I lived in PEI, I was writing back and forth with a gal in Moncton, NB. She told me that her high school history teacher had said something about the people in PEI lobbing dynamite at the people in NB ... and the people in NB lighting them and tossing them back.

I've been lobbing things to Heather for some time now and all I've seen her do is to check the expiration date on the delivered package. I've not yet seen her light the fuse and toss it back. She's in good company, don't doubt it. I've tossed some challenges to other respondents to different articles and other than some mockery and scoffing and a few angry words, I've not seen anyone return the volley.

I've seen Orato staffies mention discussion and ... um ... discourse ... but I've not seen them engaging in much of it.

Lead by example, folks. Show the world what yer REALLY made of.

Posted 11/04/2007 at 12:45pm Allan Smith

http://www.orato.com/forum?PHPSESSID=62969552ba592d6900235b38c75e2082

Not only have I seen stats but now everyone can check out the above webpage and see for themselves.

As for me being "so keen on dissing Orato", it should come as no surprise to you that someone somewhere "out there" will show you and/or Orato some disrespect. That's life. Just as some people have dissed me and some have dissed Michelle and some have dissed the Canadian board who're responsible for refusing that gay guy refuge in Canada, and just as people have dissed the military in their treatment of Michelle, so also I've dissed Orato ... when I've felt that it was reasonable to disrespect what is disrespectful.

Your choice of words in comments directed to me has often been disrespectful. You probably feel justified in your disrespect to me. Being dissed is a fact of life. I can deal with it. Can you ?

I keep coming back to Orato because I like exposing liberals for what / who they are. I have a glimmer of a hope that out there, there's someone who'll recognize the weakness of the liberal perspective, realize that it is like a house built on sand and will themselves take a philosophical and spiritual position grounded on The Solid Rock.

I also come to Orato so that I can experience people punching holes in what I say and believe. It is a good exercise to find out where my perspective needs adjusting and correcting. It's a good thing to have people show me where I'm wrong and where I need to re-think. It's good to have my butt kicked and, at times, to get whooped. Best way to become a better wrestler is to wrestle with people better than I, best way to become a better hockey player is to play against people who're better ... and I come here, hoping to find people who are better than I am at debating an issue so I can become a better debater.

So ... be better than I am @ debating. Counter my arguements. Put forward your convictions with confidence. Show me that I've met my match. Stop hiding behind your keyboard / monitor. Say something that contributes to the discussion ... perhaps something which you think might help me change my mind about how what Michelle has done is wrong.

So far the best you've done is to diss me, mock me, make fun of my position, etc. Anyone with half a brain ( Canadian or otherwise ) can do that. You're WOMAN. You are STRONG. Now, for once, prove it :)

Posted 12/04/2007 at 7:42am Allan Smith

Heather I stand corrected.

I'm happy to hear that the stats I've seen show what Orato considers improvements or progress.

It's encouraging to know that I've contributed to increased attention & responses ... maybe even readership.

Posted 26/06/2007 at 12:44pm Hazel Main

YEeehAw! I adore this cowgirl! I am so stoked to have found this article, ps gorgeous photo's, love the boots!

Posted 5/07/2007 at 8:12pm Trisha Baptie

I really thought i had heard the last from Mr.Smith some time ago, but alas while quietly trolling this site up he pops.
I have to deflate his ego just a titch when he says "It's encouraging to know that I've contributed to increased attention & responses ... maybe even readership"
Um, seriously don't toot your own horn to loud because the one consistant topic that comes up when people check out the site and read the forums is why is he (you) allowed to post anything??!!I'm not sure you encourage anything other than a slight snicker or two.

Posted 11/11/2008 at 8:45am

I always like this girl,she really knows her capacity as a beautiful entertainer .I've heard her actually from a friend and she seem to be lots of fun.


Beauty

Posted 8/12/2008 at 10:38am

She's definitely fun and entertaining! I respect her talent.

tx piano teacher

Posted 9/12/2008 at 8:38am KingDez Borejszo

Look, I think we should clarify what naked is and then dive into the pool of judgement to decide if this is shameful or not. i don't believe covered nipples and a mini skirt allow the use of the term 'naked'. Naked, in my limited understanding of the word, would mean completely exposed, much like the day you were born and this young lady is definaltey not naked, a bit underdressed perhaps, but not naked.

I don't however see how this job is adventurous, compared to mucking about in brazil, presumably swimming in rivers and traversing jungles.

What ever blows your hair back hey?