Global Warming: The Cold, Hard Facts?

The following comment "In view of the seriousness of the effects of Global Warming, which is proved beyond doubt as being caused by rampant human destruction of natural resources of this planet ... " is laughable.

It might be said, in all honesty, that "the effects of Global Warming which have been often repeated as being proven beyond all reasonable doubt ... " not it has NOT been proven beyond all reasonable doubt.

There's an old saying that goes something like if you repeat a lie often enough, people will come to believe it.

This lie has been echo'd around the world so often and our public school children have been brain washed with it for so long that now we have a large percentage of our respective culture's population believing it, in spite of the evidence to the evidence to the contrary.

Evidence to the contrary is either squashed, suppressed or ridiculed in the media and among many liberal factions of our respective cultures.

There's plenty of evidence in the fossil record that things have, in the past, been a LOT hotter than they are today. There's also evidence in those records that the earth has been many degrees COLDER than we endure today.

Global dramatic temperature swings are nothing new to this world.

If you believe in evolution, then you have to believe that this earth was once a molten mess, that it was once densely covered with very humid rain forests, that it was at other times covered, in large portions by glaciers.

If evolution is true, then this earth has seen ... AND survived ... far greater climatic changes than has been "proven" to be "taking place" globally today.

Evolution is a lie with which children internationally have been brainwashed for years. The latest cry is that man is the one ( excuse the expression ) who is single-handedly effecting, global warming.

Instead of simply and blindly repeating that mantra, why not do some actual research. Study the impact that simple things like volcanoes have had on global warming. If you're half-way responsible, half-way competent and even marginally interested in the truth, then take a chance that the load that you're being fed by the media ( and Hollywood in general ) and the load you've been fed in public school is a lie ( rather a web of lies ) re: global warming ( and, yes, evolution ) and discover for yourself the impact that volcano emissions alone have had on global warming. You will find that Mother Nature has contributed FAR more to global warming than has man in all of the industrialized era(s) internationally !! You'll find that volcanoes are not Mother Nature's only way of impacting global temperature changes and you'll discover that recent years are not the only years in which drought & famine has swept across continents.

Yes, mankind has been and too often is selfish in its use of the land and careless ( at best ) in polluting both land and water ... but man is not even nearly the major contributor in global warming. Mother Nature is the culprit and is unstoppable by man's insignificant efforts.

There's extensive blogging on Tim Ball's claims at http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/global_warming/timball/, including the recent lawsuit about his right to call himself "the first climatology PhD in Canada". For climate science debate that actually reflects the state of scientific knowledge, see realclimate.org.

Carl seems to make Timothy's point in two ways. First by overstating Timothy's point which was that if global global warming is happening (not that it isn't happening) it is not likely caused by man. Carl says it will take too long to get the good data to make the point, but by then it will be too late!!!

Vince makes Timothy's point about the mean spiritedness of questioning prevailing orthodoxies of science, especially government, well-funded science. Two examples from Vince include his attempts at guilt by association. Apparently a blog that quotes Timothy was once (over three years ago) given grant money (30g) by Exxon! And Tim is a friend of Amy!!! LOL.

Then there's this goodie an all in one sentence, "Dr. Ball's .. name .. using .. noise .. platform." Well we wouldn't want a name like Timothy or to be quoting people who are just looking for a platform and make a lot of noise such! LOL.

And then there's the matter of degrading the number with the word 'few' (is that 3 or more or how much more and how does this compare in his field) about peer review papers. Good thing this isn't about Intelligent Design or even if he had peer review papers published, the judge and court could just say, 'nope, none here.' Who cares about Mount Saint Helen versus automobiles when such a fun, PC, circus of blog banter is afoot. (-:

This article really picked my curiosity. I can't believe that Timothy Bull considers that all experts suggesting that a Global Warming is at the door are wrong. What it is particularly shocking is that he gives very few arguments for his thesis aside of his Ph.D., his name, reputation, experience...

Since I've red quite a lot about this subject, I was surprised by his opinion. I'm totally convinced that filling up the atmosphere with so much carbon dioxide (the problem is the rapidity of this phenomenon, not so much its simple occurrence) and other greenhouse gazes that are aside natural sources will have a consequence, difficult to predict, but that should be avoided.

Because the atmosphere has such a huge inertia, being huge and complex since it is implicating hundreds of elements and factors in interactions. Thus, waiting to act about greenhouse gazes is completely irresponsible because clear demonstration of global warming will take decades and decades from now as to get data for a sufficiently long period. Then, when this demonstration will be done, we will be decades too late to do anything that could limit further warming. We are already quite late to act in fact!!!

That would be great if Orato could find an expert truly recognized in that field that could write a text about this, giving scientifically based and recognized results that demonstrate the existing Global Warming.